It’s 5 solutions to 5 questions. Right here we go…
1. Are you able to be fired for being superb however not nice?
Past egregious efficiency violations and the like, can an employer fireplace you for doing superb or first rate work — nevertheless it’s not fairly on the degree they bear in mind? (Perhaps a rephrase right here: for states with at-will employment, I do know you will be fired for any cause. However does one thing like this truly occur?)
I’m considering of a former colleague who by all accounts was well-liked, confirmed as much as work on time, didn’t slack off, met their deadlines, and in any other case did a greater than first rate job of their function. Nevertheless, I believe their supervisor was considerably annoyed that, regardless of this particular person being superb at their job, they weren’t “nice” at it. This particular person wasn’t fired, nevertheless it bought me considering: in case you’re an in any other case good and dependable worker, however don’t essentially carry out at “nice” ranges, may your job realistically be in jeopardy? Or is extra industry-specific? To be clear, it’s not that this particular person was doing sub-par work; they only perhaps weren’t as proficient as their supervisor hoped they might be — or turn into.
It is dependent upon the job, the supervisor, the group, and the wants of the workforce. Within the majority of circumstances, somebody who is ok however not nice most likely isn’t going to get fired. However there are conditions the place the workforce actually wants somebody who’s acting at the next degree. You’re most certainly to see this when one thing has modified (a brand new supervisor is available in and realizes “we might be doing loads higher than this,” or the job itself modifications and the one who was superb within the previous context isn’t effectively suited to the brand new one, or the org/workforce goes via belt-tightening and the affect of 1 particular person being OK versus nice turns into greater).
Additionally, for lots of jobs, efficiency is about much more than not slacking off and assembly your deadlines. These are naked minimums, however in a job that requires creativity, innovation, or initiative, they often gained’t be sufficient to place you within the “good” class (not to mention the “nice” one). So it is dependent upon the character and wishes of the function too.
Individuals usually bristle at that, feeling like by definition most individuals are common so it’s unfair/unrealistic to count on everybody you utilize to be nice. And for a lot of jobs, that’s true. But when you concentrate on the distinction in having, say, a coach who does an OK job versus one who does an amazing job, there are jobs the place it’s affordable for managers to carry a really excessive bar. (With the instance of trainers, I used to rent them and the distinction in outcomes and participant satisfaction for OK versus nice was monumental. It was good for the group and its purchasers that they held a excessive bar on that … nevertheless it did imply that individuals who couldn’t get past the OK degree wouldn’t succeed there.) In these circumstances, although, the employer ought to be very clear about their expectations, each in hiring and within the metrics used to measure efficiency, so there’s a shared understanding amongst everybody concerned and it’s not only a gut-level, poorly outlined “I do know it once I see it.”
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how to tell your team their work isn’t good enough
2. I turned my good friend’s supervisor and he or she’s pushing me for “ladies’ weekends”
I’m a brand new supervisor to a workforce of 10 workers. I’ve labored at this company for 7 years and have additionally labored alongside a coworker who turned a superb good friend of mine throughout that point. This good friend, “Ann,” all the time had some needy, boundary-less qualities however I put up with them as a result of we not often labored collectively intently.
Now that I’m her supervisor, she is de facto pushing boundaries, consistently asking to exit consuming and go away for ladies’ weekends and I’m so over it! I’ve stated “no” on so many events, explaining my chaos at dwelling and the enterprise of labor, that I simply can’t. She continues to make sly feedback that I’m “no enjoyable anymore” and that I “all the time give you excuses” or complaining that I say I’ll attempt subsequent time and don’t. I’m over her conduct. How do I handle this?
For those who are telling her you’ll attempt subsequent time after which don’t, you’re a part of this drawback! You might want to clearly inform Ann that now that you just’re her supervisor, the connection wants to alter and also you’re not going to socialize together with her exterior of labor, interval.
Pattern language: “I’m sorry I didn’t say this extra clearly earlier. Now that I’m your supervisor, our relationship wants to alter. We will after all have a pleasant relationship at work, however we will’t be buddies. I want to have the ability to consider your work objectively, and I don’t need others on the workforce worrying about favoritism or bias or that you’ve particular entry to me. So we do want totally different boundaries than we had up to now and may’t socialize exterior of labor. I do know that’s a clumsy change to make however I’m dedicated to it, for the sake of the entire workforce.”
Associated:
I’m becoming my friend’s boss — do things have to change?
3. My firm needs me to pay them again for paid sick depart they superior me
I’ve 10 PTO days earned per 12 months. That is my second 12 months at my job. Final 12 months, I needed to take bereavement as a result of I misplaced somebody, after which I used to be sick repeatedly, and on the finish of the college 12 months, I had detrimental PTO hours, and our finance supervisor informed me it might roll over to this 12 months, and I may earn it again. This 12 months, I used to be sick once more for a complete month, and I reached out to administration to ask what to do about my detrimental PTO. I figured they might ask me to take sick depart unpaid, however they by no means bought again to me.
I felt sick as we speak, went dwelling, and let the finance supervisor know (our coverage when taking PTO), and he or she simply emailed me: “Since your present PTO steadiness is -71.75, no paid time without work is offered and any time without work can be unpaid. So I’ll prorate your 5/10 pay to be for 72 hours, as an alternative of 80. [Management] additionally needs you to pay again the remaining -71.75 hours that have been taken as PTO. In fact, we will do some sort of fee plan or deduct from any future checks, simply let me know what works greatest for you. The quantity owed is $2,508.23.”
What the heck? I don’t need to pay them again, do I? I’m cool with having current and future time without work unpaid. However they’ll’t retroactively ask me to pay all this cash, can they?
They’ll. They dealt with this badly — they need to have clearly knowledgeable you whenever you have been first stepping into the pink that you just’d both have to take the time unpaid or pay it again, not wait till you have been 70+ hours in debt to tell you — however legally they’ll certainly require you to pay them again.
The place it will get attention-grabbing is that in most states they’ll’t simply go forward and deduct it out of your paychecks. Most states have restrictions round pay deductions, which might embody needing your specific settlement for the deduction and that the deduction in any given paycheck can’t take your pay beneath minimal wage for that pay interval. That stated, even in case you don’t agree, they’ll make reimbursement a situation of your continued employment, and in some states they’ll withhold the whole quantity out of your ultimate verify if it’s nonetheless due at that time (in addition to pursue you in court docket for something remaining, though most employers gained’t do this). Their means to do the latter could depend upon whether or not their unearned depart coverage was communicated to you earlier than you acquired the advance, so verify your worker handbook or different written insurance policies to see if it’s in there anyplace.
However your greatest guess is to attempt to negotiate a reimbursement association. Inform them it might be a hardship so that you can repay the quantity they’re requesting and that they need to have knowledgeable you earlier of that expectation or had you are taking the time unpaid initially, and ask what will be labored out. It’s attainable that in case you push again, they’ll again off or give you a extra palatable solution to repair this.
4. Responding to a gaggle hug designed to violate your boundaries
This occurred years in the past, however I nonetheless give it some thought generally and marvel what I ought to have/may have finished.
I had solely been at this job a pair months, and I used to be engaged on one thing on the identical laptop with the observe proprietor. He (a person in his 60s) was leaning in, and I (a girl in her 30s) politely moved over so he may see higher. He began joking about me being standoffish and never desirous to be touched. I laughed it off and bought again to work. He left the room, and some minutes later once I left, he bought everybody who was working and available — most likely 5 – 6 folks — to crowd round me and provides me a gaggle hug, since I “didn’t prefer to be touched.” It was very transient and no one bought handsy. I used to be in shock and simply sort of stood there not reacting till they give up. That was the top of it, nothing else ever occurred, and it was by no means talked about once more.
However what if issues had escalated or continued? This man was the proprietor, the observe supervisor was just about by no means there, and there was no HR. I moved on lower than a 12 months later; unsurprisingly there have been numerous administration points. However would there have been every other choices different than simply leaving?
Properly, talking up. That doesn’t all the time work, nevertheless it works loads! If he had continued, you could possibly have stated — in a critical tone, not one you softened to downplay the message or sound good — “I do know you’re joking round, however I’m not. I don’t need folks touching or hugging me, so I’m clearly telling you to cease.” In numerous circumstances, that will have put an finish to it. In different circumstances, it may not have — however these circumstances are extra uncommon.
Additionally, for the file, that man was a jackass. “I believe your boundaries are humorous, so let’s intentionally violate them” is gross.
5. Is it price it to interview if you understand the hiring supervisor already selected another person?
I utilized for an inside job (lateral transfer with virtually equivalent job duties) and not too long ago bought an interview request. I shared my information with a good friend (Marcia), who can also be buddies with the hiring supervisor (Jan), and Marcia knowledgeable me that Jan has already chosen a candidate.
Nevertheless, as a result of the chosen candidate is an exterior rent, there’s a longer course of to formally affirm them. And in our firm, hiring managers are required to interview a minimal variety of inside candidates. That means software statuses within the software system keep in limbo till the chosen candidate is employed.
I’ve already accepted an interview date, however I’m questioning if I ought to cancel now that I do know what I do know. As well as, now I really feel Jan most likely invited me to an interview as a result of we’ve got a mutual good friend in Marcia and to fill the inner hiring quota whereas they wait for his or her chosen exterior candidate to get via the HR pink tape.
That will be giving an terrible lot of energy to Marcia and to info you heard secondhand. What if Marcia bought it improper? What if one thing modified since Jan talked to her? What if the exterior candidate doesn’t settle for the provide?
For those who’re within the job, go to the interview and strategy it the identical method you’d have in case you hadn’t heard this.
If the hiring supervisor is simply going via the motions with you and already plans on hiring another person, that’s crappy — and it’s opposite to the spirit of guidelines that require interviewing a minimal variety of candidates. These guidelines aren’t alleged to imply “verify this bureaucratic field” (though they usually get used that method); they’re supposed to make sure a spread of candidates is truly thought of. Too usually this type of rule is used to waste folks’s time, and that sucks. However it’s not clear sufficient that that’s what’s occurring right here.
It’s 5 solutions to 5 questions. Right here we go…
1. Are you able to be fired for being superb however not nice?
Past egregious efficiency violations and the like, can an employer fireplace you for doing superb or first rate work — nevertheless it’s not fairly on the degree they bear in mind? (Perhaps a rephrase right here: for states with at-will employment, I do know you will be fired for any cause. However does one thing like this truly occur?)
I’m considering of a former colleague who by all accounts was well-liked, confirmed as much as work on time, didn’t slack off, met their deadlines, and in any other case did a greater than first rate job of their function. Nevertheless, I believe their supervisor was considerably annoyed that, regardless of this particular person being superb at their job, they weren’t “nice” at it. This particular person wasn’t fired, nevertheless it bought me considering: in case you’re an in any other case good and dependable worker, however don’t essentially carry out at “nice” ranges, may your job realistically be in jeopardy? Or is extra industry-specific? To be clear, it’s not that this particular person was doing sub-par work; they only perhaps weren’t as proficient as their supervisor hoped they might be — or turn into.
It is dependent upon the job, the supervisor, the group, and the wants of the workforce. Within the majority of circumstances, somebody who is ok however not nice most likely isn’t going to get fired. However there are conditions the place the workforce actually wants somebody who’s acting at the next degree. You’re most certainly to see this when one thing has modified (a brand new supervisor is available in and realizes “we might be doing loads higher than this,” or the job itself modifications and the one who was superb within the previous context isn’t effectively suited to the brand new one, or the org/workforce goes via belt-tightening and the affect of 1 particular person being OK versus nice turns into greater).
Additionally, for lots of jobs, efficiency is about much more than not slacking off and assembly your deadlines. These are naked minimums, however in a job that requires creativity, innovation, or initiative, they often gained’t be sufficient to place you within the “good” class (not to mention the “nice” one). So it is dependent upon the character and wishes of the function too.
Individuals usually bristle at that, feeling like by definition most individuals are common so it’s unfair/unrealistic to count on everybody you utilize to be nice. And for a lot of jobs, that’s true. But when you concentrate on the distinction in having, say, a coach who does an OK job versus one who does an amazing job, there are jobs the place it’s affordable for managers to carry a really excessive bar. (With the instance of trainers, I used to rent them and the distinction in outcomes and participant satisfaction for OK versus nice was monumental. It was good for the group and its purchasers that they held a excessive bar on that … nevertheless it did imply that individuals who couldn’t get past the OK degree wouldn’t succeed there.) In these circumstances, although, the employer ought to be very clear about their expectations, each in hiring and within the metrics used to measure efficiency, so there’s a shared understanding amongst everybody concerned and it’s not only a gut-level, poorly outlined “I do know it once I see it.”
Associated:
how to tell your team their work isn’t good enough
2. I turned my good friend’s supervisor and he or she’s pushing me for “ladies’ weekends”
I’m a brand new supervisor to a workforce of 10 workers. I’ve labored at this company for 7 years and have additionally labored alongside a coworker who turned a superb good friend of mine throughout that point. This good friend, “Ann,” all the time had some needy, boundary-less qualities however I put up with them as a result of we not often labored collectively intently.
Now that I’m her supervisor, she is de facto pushing boundaries, consistently asking to exit consuming and go away for ladies’ weekends and I’m so over it! I’ve stated “no” on so many events, explaining my chaos at dwelling and the enterprise of labor, that I simply can’t. She continues to make sly feedback that I’m “no enjoyable anymore” and that I “all the time give you excuses” or complaining that I say I’ll attempt subsequent time and don’t. I’m over her conduct. How do I handle this?
For those who are telling her you’ll attempt subsequent time after which don’t, you’re a part of this drawback! You might want to clearly inform Ann that now that you just’re her supervisor, the connection wants to alter and also you’re not going to socialize together with her exterior of labor, interval.
Pattern language: “I’m sorry I didn’t say this extra clearly earlier. Now that I’m your supervisor, our relationship wants to alter. We will after all have a pleasant relationship at work, however we will’t be buddies. I want to have the ability to consider your work objectively, and I don’t need others on the workforce worrying about favoritism or bias or that you’ve particular entry to me. So we do want totally different boundaries than we had up to now and may’t socialize exterior of labor. I do know that’s a clumsy change to make however I’m dedicated to it, for the sake of the entire workforce.”
Associated:
I’m becoming my friend’s boss — do things have to change?
3. My firm needs me to pay them again for paid sick depart they superior me
I’ve 10 PTO days earned per 12 months. That is my second 12 months at my job. Final 12 months, I needed to take bereavement as a result of I misplaced somebody, after which I used to be sick repeatedly, and on the finish of the college 12 months, I had detrimental PTO hours, and our finance supervisor informed me it might roll over to this 12 months, and I may earn it again. This 12 months, I used to be sick once more for a complete month, and I reached out to administration to ask what to do about my detrimental PTO. I figured they might ask me to take sick depart unpaid, however they by no means bought again to me.
I felt sick as we speak, went dwelling, and let the finance supervisor know (our coverage when taking PTO), and he or she simply emailed me: “Since your present PTO steadiness is -71.75, no paid time without work is offered and any time without work can be unpaid. So I’ll prorate your 5/10 pay to be for 72 hours, as an alternative of 80. [Management] additionally needs you to pay again the remaining -71.75 hours that have been taken as PTO. In fact, we will do some sort of fee plan or deduct from any future checks, simply let me know what works greatest for you. The quantity owed is $2,508.23.”
What the heck? I don’t need to pay them again, do I? I’m cool with having current and future time without work unpaid. However they’ll’t retroactively ask me to pay all this cash, can they?
They’ll. They dealt with this badly — they need to have clearly knowledgeable you whenever you have been first stepping into the pink that you just’d both have to take the time unpaid or pay it again, not wait till you have been 70+ hours in debt to tell you — however legally they’ll certainly require you to pay them again.
The place it will get attention-grabbing is that in most states they’ll’t simply go forward and deduct it out of your paychecks. Most states have restrictions round pay deductions, which might embody needing your specific settlement for the deduction and that the deduction in any given paycheck can’t take your pay beneath minimal wage for that pay interval. That stated, even in case you don’t agree, they’ll make reimbursement a situation of your continued employment, and in some states they’ll withhold the whole quantity out of your ultimate verify if it’s nonetheless due at that time (in addition to pursue you in court docket for something remaining, though most employers gained’t do this). Their means to do the latter could depend upon whether or not their unearned depart coverage was communicated to you earlier than you acquired the advance, so verify your worker handbook or different written insurance policies to see if it’s in there anyplace.
However your greatest guess is to attempt to negotiate a reimbursement association. Inform them it might be a hardship so that you can repay the quantity they’re requesting and that they need to have knowledgeable you earlier of that expectation or had you are taking the time unpaid initially, and ask what will be labored out. It’s attainable that in case you push again, they’ll again off or give you a extra palatable solution to repair this.
4. Responding to a gaggle hug designed to violate your boundaries
This occurred years in the past, however I nonetheless give it some thought generally and marvel what I ought to have/may have finished.
I had solely been at this job a pair months, and I used to be engaged on one thing on the identical laptop with the observe proprietor. He (a person in his 60s) was leaning in, and I (a girl in her 30s) politely moved over so he may see higher. He began joking about me being standoffish and never desirous to be touched. I laughed it off and bought again to work. He left the room, and some minutes later once I left, he bought everybody who was working and available — most likely 5 – 6 folks — to crowd round me and provides me a gaggle hug, since I “didn’t prefer to be touched.” It was very transient and no one bought handsy. I used to be in shock and simply sort of stood there not reacting till they give up. That was the top of it, nothing else ever occurred, and it was by no means talked about once more.
However what if issues had escalated or continued? This man was the proprietor, the observe supervisor was just about by no means there, and there was no HR. I moved on lower than a 12 months later; unsurprisingly there have been numerous administration points. However would there have been every other choices different than simply leaving?
Properly, talking up. That doesn’t all the time work, nevertheless it works loads! If he had continued, you could possibly have stated — in a critical tone, not one you softened to downplay the message or sound good — “I do know you’re joking round, however I’m not. I don’t need folks touching or hugging me, so I’m clearly telling you to cease.” In numerous circumstances, that will have put an finish to it. In different circumstances, it may not have — however these circumstances are extra uncommon.
Additionally, for the file, that man was a jackass. “I believe your boundaries are humorous, so let’s intentionally violate them” is gross.
5. Is it price it to interview if you understand the hiring supervisor already selected another person?
I utilized for an inside job (lateral transfer with virtually equivalent job duties) and not too long ago bought an interview request. I shared my information with a good friend (Marcia), who can also be buddies with the hiring supervisor (Jan), and Marcia knowledgeable me that Jan has already chosen a candidate.
Nevertheless, as a result of the chosen candidate is an exterior rent, there’s a longer course of to formally affirm them. And in our firm, hiring managers are required to interview a minimal variety of inside candidates. That means software statuses within the software system keep in limbo till the chosen candidate is employed.
I’ve already accepted an interview date, however I’m questioning if I ought to cancel now that I do know what I do know. As well as, now I really feel Jan most likely invited me to an interview as a result of we’ve got a mutual good friend in Marcia and to fill the inner hiring quota whereas they wait for his or her chosen exterior candidate to get via the HR pink tape.
That will be giving an terrible lot of energy to Marcia and to info you heard secondhand. What if Marcia bought it improper? What if one thing modified since Jan talked to her? What if the exterior candidate doesn’t settle for the provide?
For those who’re within the job, go to the interview and strategy it the identical method you’d have in case you hadn’t heard this.
If the hiring supervisor is simply going via the motions with you and already plans on hiring another person, that’s crappy — and it’s opposite to the spirit of guidelines that require interviewing a minimal variety of candidates. These guidelines aren’t alleged to imply “verify this bureaucratic field” (though they usually get used that method); they’re supposed to make sure a spread of candidates is truly thought of. Too usually this type of rule is used to waste folks’s time, and that sucks. However it’s not clear sufficient that that’s what’s occurring right here.